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Prime Minister Netanyahu and his colleagues have declared eliminating Hamas is their aim. They have indicated that the Palestinian Authority governing Gaza is unacceptable; that the IDF must be able to intervene, if deemed necessary. When Hamas is eliminated Israel will disclaim further responsibility, but Israel will have effectively reoccupied the territory — a de facto single state from the river to the sea! One State being the reality, the future is full civil and political rights for Arabs.

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Post it then!

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"Hamas is the only thing standing in the way of a ceasefire, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said overnight as a delegation of the Palestinian militants this morning were due to arrive in Cairo to resume talks.

Reports suggest that a deal could be agreed in the coming hours amid a flurry of diplomatic activity.

“We wait to see whether, in effect, they can take yes for an answer on the ceasefire and release of hostages,” Blinken said late Friday at the McCain Institute’s Sedona Forum in Arizona. “The reality in this moment is the only thing standing between the people of Gaza and a ceasefire is Hamas.”

“Taking the ceasefire should be a no-brainer,” he added, but said the “ultimate decision-makers” are members of the group in Gaza, with whom mediators have no direct contact.

Hamas and CIA officials will meet Egyptian mediators on Saturday, as foreign negotiators await a response from Hamas on the latest proposal to halt fighting for 40 days and exchange hostages for Palestinian prisoners.

Israel’s Channel 12 cited an unnamed Hamas source as saying that the group will shortly announce an acceptance of the first stage of the deal following US guarantees that Israel will withdraw from Gaza after 124 days, when all three phases of the agreement have been completed. The US guarantee was reportedly passed along via Egyptian and Qatari mediators at an eleventh hour meeting last night, which was also reported by Saudi newspaper Al Sharq.

The negotiations are reported to have been stalled recently over Hamas’ demand that the Israeli army withdraw completely from Gaza at the end of what Israel wants to be only a temporary pause in fighting, so that it can battle the remaining Hamas battalions in Rafah.

The World Health Organisation warned last night that if Israel does launch an offensive in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, which has been widely feared by the US and other allies, it would be a “bloodbath”.

The deal Israel was waiting for Hamas to agree too on April 29th?
Ceasefire not end to war leaving Hamas intact.
Hamas would not agree to ceasefire only end of war.
Israel rejected that.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...aza-deal-video

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"Sinister Hamas terms would let it keep most hostages, win the war, inflame the West Bank
It took the US more than a day to internalize that Hamas had not in fact accepted a hostages-for-truce proposal. But the text of its ‘agreement’ is far more duplicitous than that".





https://www.timesofisrael.com/sinist...the-west-bank/

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Netanyahu’s political survival in hands of far-right ministers Reliance on extremist allies such as Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich distancing prime minister from Israeli public Israel’s far-right national security minister Itamar Ben-Gvir attends cabinet meeting in Jerusalem in 2023. Photograph: Ohad Zwigenberg/AP Israel’s national security minister presented himself before the television cameras to make a statement on Sunday, shortly after leaving a meeting with the country’s prime minister. Invoking divine support, Itamar Ben-Gvir said he had “warned the prime minister that if God forbids it, Israel will not enter a ceasefire”. He said Benjamin Netanyahu “promised that Israel would enter Rafah, that the war would not end, and promised that there will be no irresponsible deal”. The following Tuesday, Israeli troops had entered the Philadelphi corridor on the southern border with Egypt and taken control of the Rafah border crossing, hoisting Israeli flags from the terminal. The sequencing of the two events was revealing. Faced once again with the threat posed by a fringe and extremist politician – who Netanyahu had elevated into government – the prime minister had given every appearance of blinking, underlining his reliance on far-right coalition allies such as Ben-Gvir and the finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich. … Peter Beaumont | Wed 8 May 2024 © 2024 Guardian News & Media Limited

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Netanyahu’s political survival in hands of far-right ministers Reliance on extremist allies such as Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich distancing prime minister from Israeli public Israel’s far-right national security minister Itamar Ben-Gvir attends cabinet meeting in Jerusalem in 2023. Photograph: Ohad Zwigenberg/AP

The vast majority of Israelis do NOT want to go into RAFAH. They want the hostages released ASAP.
I can definitely understand ..if it was someone from my family held hostage I would want them released at any price…
Nearly everyday protests are held begging Netanyahu to come to a ceasefire agreement. ( Unfortunately this is pleasing Hamas leaders to no end)
Now that Biden has declared no arms for Israel, is a very sad state of affairs. Biden has forgotten that Hizbollah are sitting on Israel’s borders in the North. Hundred thousand Israeli civilian moved away from their homes.

[sandGroundZero]

Israel-Gaza war More than 100,000 flee Rafah as Israel steps up strikes, says UN Deep concern displaced people will return to rubble of former homes without ‘basic essentials necessary for life’ Roads blocked as Israelis protest aid deliveries

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Who is directing Israel's war on Gaza? Bezalel Smotrich | Benjamin Netanyahu | Itamar Ben-Gvir Image: Yonatan Sindel & Olivier Fitoussi / Flash 90 _____________ [National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir] …and other ultra-nationalist members of Netanyahu’s coalition support a large-scale Rafah operation and have threatened to bring down his government if it doesn’t happen.

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Promoters of Palestinian history have short memories and bias when it comes their enemies.


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The 1834 revolt and the immediate aftermath reduced the male population of Palestine by about one-fifth. This decrease is attributed to the large numbers of peasants who were either deported to Egypt to work in manufacturing, drafted into Egypt's military, or abandoned their villages and farms to join the Bedouin nomadic populations.[53] Around 10,000 peasants were deported to Egypt and the general population was disarmed.[12] The conscription orders were extended beyond the Muslim population to the local Christians. Taxes were also extended from landed property to include livestock as well. As Ibrahim consolidated his hold over Palestine and disarmed the population, banditry by local tribesmen and civil strife was largely eliminated.[54]

Abandoned or rebellious villages were destroyed by Ibrahim Pasha's troops, which prevented their inhabitants from returning.[53] Ibrahim's army razed 16 villages before taking Nablus.[12] He also forced the heads of the Nablus clans to leave for nearby villages.[55][56] The absence of the traditional local leadership due to exile or execution left Palestine's urban population to be financially exploited by both the government and its local opponents.[53] The imprisoned headmen of villages were replaced by their sons, although Ibrahim Pasha demoted them as nawatir (watchmen) instead of the higher-ranking title of mukhtar.[41] Qasim's son Mahmud replaced him and the popularity of his father among the peasantry compelled the rural chiefs of Jabal Nablus to request from the government that Mahmud replace Sulaiman Abd al-Hadi as mutasallim of Nablus.[57]

Ottoman rule was subsequently reinstated in 1840 after Acre was recaptured with the critical support of the Royal Navy.[54] The peasants who were drafted into Muhammad Ali's army returned to their hometowns following the reassertion of Ottoman rule.[54] Not long after the end of Egyptian rule, the intermittently recurring civil strife between the Qays and Yaman tribo-political factions resumed in parts of central Palestine.[58] Throughout the 1840s until the 1860s, the Ottomans launched their own modernization reforms, known as the Tanzimat, throughout the empire with varying degrees of success.[6] Coinciding with these efforts, the international powers began a tug-of-war of influence in Palestine as they sought to extend their protection over the country's religious minorities, a struggle carried out mainly through their consular representatives in Jerusalem.[59]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasan...t_in_Palestine

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Hamble Promoters of Palestinian history have short memories and bias when it comes their enemies. Peasants' revolt in Palestine … By the 20th century, the revolt was largely absent in the Palestinian collective memory,[5] from which "the humiliating and traumatic events" were "conveniently erased", according to Israeli historian Baruch Kimmerling.[6] Kimmerling and Joel S. Migdal state that the revolt was a formative event for the Palestinian sense of nationhood in that it brought together disparate groups against a common enemy. Moreover, they asserted that these groups reemerged later to constitute the Palestinian people. The revolt represented a moment of political unity in Palestine. The goal of the rebels was to expel the Egyptian army and reinstate Ottoman rule to restore the Ottoman standards that defined the relationship between the government and the governed. These standards were made up of the religious laws, administrative codes and local norms and traditions that were disrupted by Egyptian reforms.[4] … underline added

[Hamble]

Spread of rebellion and truce negotiations
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Nablus, by W. C. P. Medlycott, in H. B. Tristram, 1865.[25]

"By 8 June, Nablus was in full-scale rebellion as were the coastal towns of Ramla, Lydda, Jaffa and Acre. Rebels also captured Safad and Tiberias in the eastern Galilee and Bedouin participating in the revolt attacked the Egyptian garrison at al-Karak in Transjordan.[26] In the latter confrontation, 200 Egyptian soldiers were killed.[26] In the rebel attack on Safad on 15 June,[27] unknown number of the city's Jewish inhabitants were killed[28] or raped[29] over a period of 33 days.[30] Many were beaten to death or severely wounded and accounts[according to whom?] tell of men being blinded and men and women being tortured. The attack led to the decline of Safad's Jewish community.[31] When the notables of Jerusalem learned that Muhammad Ali was set to arrive in Palestine with reinforcements, they offered to mediate a truce between the Egyptians and the rebel leaders through the mufti Tahir Effendi al-Husayni. The leader of the rebels in the Hebron Hills, Isa al-Amr, informed al-Husayni of three conditions for a truce to be reached: the pardoning of all rebels, the cancellation of conscription orders in return for the payment of 1,000 qirsh per male, and the abolition of the new taxation category. The terms were rejected by Ibrahim Pasha, but he continued negotiations with al-Husayni through Husayn Abd al-Hadi, the governor of Sidon.[32]"

https://military-history.fandom.com/...t_in_Palestine

[Hamble]

Gaza tunnel systems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palest...the_Gaza_Strip


During the Macedonian siege of Gaza in 332 BC, both the Macedonians and the Persians (supported by Arabs), engaged in tunnel warfare.[5] The digging of tunnels was made possible by Gaza's loose soil.[5]